You see, God's plan is not just to be perfected in the Spirit, but to MANIFEST
that perfection SPIRIT, SOUL AND BODY. (Heb 6:1-3, )
This means that perfection IS TO BE HERE ON EARTH. Jesus prayer was, "thy
Kingdom come, in earth (our earth and the natural earth) as it IS IN HEAVEN,".
We know that "heaven" is not somewhere out in space. But, "heaven" is in the
Mind of Christ. A state of being. The spirit realm is where we remain UNTIL
PERFECTION IS SEEN HERE ON EARTH and has happened in the spirit realm.
Hebrews 11:39-40, "These all, having obtained a good report through faith,
received not the promise.: God having foreseen some better thing for us, that
they without us should not BE MADE PERFECT."
Perfect means "complete". Those will not be complete UNTIL they are back here in
a glorified body. They cannot be made perfect UNTIL perfection is seen HERE. I
DO realize that those who have passed over, already have perfection in the
Spirit, just as we do, BUT, their souls have not reached perfection.
They HAD to receive the Holy Spirit, even after they had died and was IN THE
SPIRIT REALM!!
The Arabs, Moslems, that die NOT believing in Jesus, MUST STILL ACCEPT HIM AS
SAVIOURS to be saved. They must then walk through God's Plan. The flesh body has
nothing to do with it. (if one has already died. They receive that at
perfection.) IT'S THE MIND THAT MUST BE CHANGED. Yes, in the SPIRIT, they have
been save, but, they HAVE to learn that, just as here on earth. ALL ARE SAVED,
but there are MANY who have to learn that, yet. The flesh body or the being
without the flesh body, WILL NOT stop God from working His Plan with those who
die not knowing Jesus.
No, just because we die, doesn't mean that once we enter the spirit realm, we
automatically are perfected, IF our mind has not been changed. That mind MUST
MANIFEST, in the spirit world or in this world.
Take this into consideration. Jesus has ended all sin, right? So, if there is
no more sin, and if one comes into perfection the minute that they die and enter
the spirit realm, then IF I kill myself so that I will be perfected, that would
not be a sin counted against me, right? Would I WANT to kill myself, in order to
be perfected? To be perfected I would want to do whatever it takes to be
perfected. And what is keeping me from that perfection is that I know that this
belief isn't true. To see no more sickness, to see no more trials for those I
love, to see no more war and hatred between my spiritual family, to know ALL,
experimentally, everything that God knows and be all that He has planned for me
to be; oh yes, IF dying would bring all of this about, you'd better believe I'd
kill myself, in a flat minute. But, Father's Plan IS LIFE, HIS LIFE to come
forth from each and every one of us. No, dying would not bring me into
manifested perfection.
Father has told me, "As I am, so are you, in THIS WORLD." That means PERFECTION.
And He is walking it out through me. And you know what? I believe HIM. And
those who are waiting in the spirit realm, for me to come into perfection, so
that THEY can come into perfection; well you'd better believe that is my hope.
And when that perfection comes to US, THEY will come into perfection and be back
here in their new bodies. (which I don't believe is far off.) Hallelujah!! All
glory to Father!! HE sees it finished and is awaiting us, to walk completely
into His finished work, the manifestation of that work! And it is close.
Regardless what anyone's flesh eyes sees in me or those who are beginning to
walk in/as Him. It is true, we are One with Father (although some don't know it
yet.) and are nearing the manifestation of Him walking through us. Amen!!
Those who have died and are in the spirit realm, some are coming into the this
changing too. But, all that are there, MUST have the mind of Christ manifest in
them, just as we must. HE IS NO RESPECTER OF PERSONS! Those in the spirit
realm MUST manifest the salvation in the soul, just as we must. There are NO
hindrances at all, for God to not only bring forth the understanding that ALL
must receive, but also, there is no hindrances to the manifestation of His Plan.
(here or in the spirit realm.)
Let's look at the rest of the email.
QUOTE: "Paul wrote “For our knowledge is imperfect and our prophecy is
imperfect; but when the perfect comes, the imperfect will pass away.” 1
Corinthians 13:9,10, RSV.
The church of Christ mangled this scripture to try to make it prove that when
the bible came, we had no need of the Holy Spirit. That is blasphemy, pure and
simple. Christ is the perfect, and He has come. " UNQUOTE
I agree 100% with what Paul said. The problem is, we haven't ALL come into the
same understanding of this verse. There are still those of us who still know
Jesus, the man Jesus, after the flesh. They still see the flesh man, Jesus, as
the ONLY perfect one. BUT, the revelation of John 17:3-4, where we are told that
Jesus RETURNED to FATHERHOOD . And to 2Cor. 5:16, which tells us to "KNOW JESUS
NO MORE AFTER THE FLESH "
Yes, the Perfect has come, BUT, remember, HE MANIFESTED that PERFECTION! It was
not AFTER He returned to the spirit, it was HERE ON EARTH, where He had become
Father again, and came to live IN US. So, the perfection was placed in US. This
is WHEN the IMPERFECT left the world.
In the Spirit, WE are perfect and WE are walking into that perfection. But,
people look for that perfection with their natural eyes, and they will NEVER see
it with the natural eyes. We ARE what HE SAYS WE ARE. We will manifest it as THE
MIND IS CHANGED.
Those in the spirit realm are still learning, just as we are. Learning does not
stop once we die. We had better hope so, because of some of the brethren, like
Ben Laden, and Sadaam. If they died today, to go right into perfection, would
prove Father a respecter of persons.
And remember another thing. For something to manifest, it doesn't take a flesh
body, BUT A GLORIFIED BODY!!. When the Mind of Christ has completely come forth,
manifested, then also is perfection manifested.
When Jesus was on earth, He said that He would lose none that was given to Him,
but, He didn't mean that we could live as murderers and die without accepting
Jesus as Saviour, and bingo, bango, we are perfected. Would that be JUST?
Would that not be a respecter of persons?
Now, I want to look at the Rich man and Lazarus. (Luke 16) The thing that I
want to see here, is the "spirit realm". I'm not going to write the whole thing
out, but, you can read and study it, at Luke 16: 19-31. This is an allegory to
learn from.
Luke 16:19-22, "There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and
fine linen and fared sumptuously every day. And there wasa certain beggar named
Lazarus, which was laid at his (the rich man's) gate, full of sores. And
desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table:
moreover the dogs came and licked his sores. And it came to pass, that the
beggar died and was carried by the angels into Abraham's' blossom : the rich
man also died and was buried."
Now, we see that BOTH men are dead. Abraham represents the spirit realm and
BOTH men are there, WITH ABRAHAM. Notice, each man IS IN A DIFFERENT PART OF
THE SPIRIT REALM.
VS23...."he lifted up his eyes, being in torments and seeth Abraham afar off,
and Lazarus in his bosom.."
Now, we know that that "spirit which returneth to God" is saved, but, the
salvation of the Spirit must be known and there are 2 more salvation's that that
man must walk through. (Theses 5:23-24).
VS24..., "And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send
Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for
I am tormented in this flame."
It is evident that the rich man HAD NOT had a change of MIND. (soul). He still
considered Lazarus lower than himself, a servant , if you will. Which shows that
perfection had not been attained. BUT, it's on its way. The FLAME spoken of, is
GOD. "Our God is a consuming fire". It's not that , like the old wivestale, the
devil was standing there burning the rich man at all times. No! The stubble is
to burned out of the rich man , just as it is in US! HE IS NO RESPECTER OF
PERSONS, HE WILL NOT CHANGE HIS PLAN , REGARDLESS OF ANYONE!
VS25 look at the first four words, here. "But Abraham said, SON...."
You see will have always been and will also be, Father's Son. But, there is a
process that we have progress through.
Now, to show that the spirit realm is not the same to all. Just as here on
earth; when we go through our tests and trials, IT IS FOR A LEARNING. Our walk
must be.
VS 25, "But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy life-time receivedst
thy good things and likewise Lazarus evil things; BUT NOW he is comforted and
thou art tormented."
Can you see that the rich man is about to LEARN something. Something is going to
be worked out and a manifestation of a change of heart is on its way?
Also:
VS 26, "And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf..."
Did you notice the "you there" ? To me, this is telling me that others must be
where the rich man was at. And there was a gulf that could not be crossed over,
between the two places. This is not a "punishing holdover". It is a realm of
Father's Plan that must be learned, just like us and everyone else.
When we read the rest of this, we see that the rich man was not perfected. He,
like
all of us, at times, want to tell Father how to do things. We want HIM to trust
US, not visa versa.
No, we must listen and learn and walk through all three salvations that are in
Father's plan. Understand, in Father's eyes , it is done. But, they must still
manifest, whether in the spirit realm or here on earth. Father is JUST. Father
is NO RESPECTER OF PERSONS.
One more scripture and we'll be finished with this study.
Rev. 10: 1-3, "And I saw another mighty angel come down from heaven, clothed
with a cloud and a rainbow was upon his head, and his face was as it were the
sun (SON) and his feet as pillars of fire. And he had in his hand a little book
open: and he set his right foot upon the sea, and his left foot on the earth.
And cried with a loud voice, as when a lion roareth; and when he had cried,
seven thunders uttered their voices."
As we see, this "angel" or messenger is the many membered Body of Christ (seen
in Rev. 1:13), that have manifested and what is He doing? He is teaching
Father's Word. He's telling of what is about to come, BEFORE PERFECTION. You
notice, He is standing and teaching BOTH SIDES , earth and the spirit realm and
all the people in that realm. Which tells me, perfection HAS NOT MANIFESTED in
BOTH, realms, earth or the spirit realm. Again, YES< YES< YES, it is finished,
but, if one doesn't know it, or doesn't know that it's there for us to walk into
and for those in the spirit realm to attain to, they MUST BE TAUGHT so they can
MANIFEST it. BOTH REALMS.
There's a translation of the bible, that says, "those in the spirit realm are
standing on tippy toes, cheering on the Sons of God". Why? Because there are
some in the spirit realm , as well as the natural earth, that have grasped the
Truth of Father's Work being finished, and are on their way, walking it out and
when it is done, the incorruptible bodies manifest and perfection has been
reached.
Folks, there are those who HAVE to go through salvation, Pentecost and
perfection , in the spirit realm as well as here.
So, I leave this in your hands and hearts. Father will show us ALL His Truth.
Be blessed.