WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE PASS OVER?

Part 1

I told you at the beginning of the year that Father was showing me things that I was to begin teaching. Well, this is the beginning of some of those things. You may not wish to hear it, and that is ok, just hit the delete button. But, those who are awakening to the truth of WHO and WHAT they are, are to begin EXPERIENCING that being. We will hear MANY things that we have not heard before, but HE is in control as to what we hear, WE are in control of what we will accept. So, I ask that you consult Him as to what you are to do.

This morning, as I was meditating and just resting in Fathers's Presence, I was just sitting quietly and thinking on what to "study" today, nothing came to me. So, I got up and turned on the computer. There waiting for me was an email from a friend, informing me of the passing over of our dear brother, Floyd Watson. That was the answer, as to what I should seek.

Many different opinions are held as to the question, "What Happens When We Pass Over?". Everyone, wherever they are walking, has their ideas as to the answer.

Many brothers and sisters believe that when we step out of this vehicle that we use here on earth, our body, walk straight into the KNOWING of perfection or completion of our Oneness in Father. I don't hold to this belief, because, like I told one of my best friends; IF that were true, I would end it all today, here on the earth plane. I will give some scripture a little later as to why I believe as I do.

Then, there are those who believe in a heaven and a hell, and you go to one or the other. This I don't agree with either. Of course, one's view of WHAT heaven or hell is, would play a part in what happens at the time of passing.

Also, there are to those who believe that at the time of passing, that's the end. They believe that there is nothing left.

I would like to share with you, my beliefs and why I believe as I do.

First of all, we are told that we are the image of God. (Gen. 1:27). We are Spirit Beings and a Spirit cannot die. There is only ONE SPIRIT, and that is the Spirit of God.

Eph. 4:4-6, "There is ONE body, and ONE Spirit, even as ye are called in ONE hope of your calling; ONE Lord, ONE faith, ONE baptism, ONE God and Father of all, WHO IS above all, and through all, and IN YOU ALL."

Right now I just am speaking of the Spirit.

Gen. 1:27, "So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them."

John 4:24, "God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and truth."

2Cor. 3:17, "Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spiriit of the Lord is, there is liberty."

Now, knowing that we ARE a Spirit Being, this dismisses the thought that "after death, that's the end." Also, these scriputres do away with the belief of "death". There is no such thing as death. ALL have eternal life. That does not mean that all of that eternal life will be spent on this earth. For the sake of showing that death IS done away with, and our belief or disbelief about death, helps determine if we will see death or not, turn to:

IS 28:15, "Because ye have said, WE have made a covenant with death, and with hell are we at agreement; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, it shall not come unto us: for we have made lies our refuge and under falsehood have we hid ourselves."

PS 102:20, "This shall be written for the generation to come; and the people which shall be created shall praise the Lord. For he hath looked down from the height of his sanctuary; from heaven did the Lord behold the earth; To hear the groaning of the prisoner; to loose those that are appointed to death;"

Heb. 9:27, "And as it is appointed unto men ONCE TO DIE, but after this the judgment."

Rom. 6: 3-6, "Know ye not, that so many of US as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized inTO HIS DEATH? Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into DEATH: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so WE also shold walk in newness of life. For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his DEATH, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection: KNOWING THIS, THAT OUR OLD MAN IS CRUCIFIED WITH HIM, THAT THE BODY OF SIN MIGHT BE DESTROYED, THAT HENCEFORTH WE SHOULD NOT SERVE SIN."

YOU ARE RAISED A NEW CREATURE!!!!

We were to see ONLY ONE DEATH! And we have seen that one death. We ARE new creatures, we ARE GOD CREATURES, in the very IMAGE OF HIM!! We cannot die again. We can step out of this flesh body, but we DO NOT DIE. The only thing that dies is our thinking. Ok, let's go on.

So, we see that we ARE SPIRIT BEINGS; and the VERY SPIRIT THAT FATHER IS. We, also, see that there is NO NEED for death. Actually, there has been NO DEATH since Jesus resurrected. Jesus WAS Father. He tried to tell us this many times. He BECAME the Son, ONLY to lay a Pattern for us to follow.

You see, Father knew the fallen state that we have been exisiting in. He knew that in order for MAN to believe something, MAN HAD TO SEE SOMETHING HAPPEN, IN ORDER TO ACCEPT SOMETHING. It is worded so clearly in the Living Bible.

Philippians 2;5-7, "Your attitude should be the kind that was shown us by Jesus Christ, who, though he was GOD, did not demand and cling to his rights as God; but laid aside his mighty power and glory, TAKING THE DISGUISE OF A SLAVE AND BECOMING LIKE MEN...."

We all know that even today, most will not accept anything without seeing it. Take for instance, the TRUTH of WHO and WHAT we really are. But, there are those who are now holding the vision of what Father's Words tell us about our TRUE selves. We see and hold on to the reality of His Truths. You see, they LIKE THE FLESH MAN JESUS, are here for one thing and one thing only, TO SHOW THE FATHER IN A FLESH BODY, that is changing as our thoughts and beliefs change.

So, when He tells us that we DO NOT HAVE TO SEE PHYSICAL DEATH, BELIEVE IT; DIGEST IT; LET IT COME FORTH FOR THE TRUTH THAT IT IS. AND believe EVERYTHING ELSE THAT HE TELLS US!! Regardless of what others say; regardless of what we have been taught. You see, this Truth of Father being seen ON EARTH through a people who have awakened to the Truth that they are so ONE WITH HIM, ONLY HIM is beginning to be seen through them. Don't you or don't allow anyone else to rob you of your TRUE IDENTITY. You will reach that Identity, here or on the other side, the invisible realm of Spirit. It is a process. It is not an overnight happening. BUT, for it to manifest, YOU must allow HIM, from within yourself, to raise your understanding. BELIEF IS ESSENTIAL!!

To show that those who step out to their flesh vehicle, DO NOT automatically come into perfection or completion, look at Hebrews.

Heb 11:39-40, "And these all, having obtained a good report through faith, RECEIVED NOT the promise; God having provided some better thing for us, that thy without us should not be made perfect (complete)."

The 11th chapter of Hebrews is about all who have passed over. They are all, now, in the invisible realm of Spirit. But, notice, HE PROVIDED SOMETHING BETTER FOR US. This provision was US AWAKENING TO HIS TRUTH ABOUT US. Did you notice that those who passed over, COULD NOT COME INTO PERFECTION (or completion) WITHOUT US? The US, is that Body of people who make up HIS BODY and do not see death. This is the better provision He provided, not only for us, but for those who did pass over.

EVERYTHING that the flesh man Jesus did, we will/are doing. When He called Lazarous forth from the dead, is exactly what we will do when we have finished the process that we are in now. Let me make this perfectly clear; WE ARE ALREADY, RIGHT NOW, WHAT AND WHO HE SAYS WE ARE , BUT THE REALITY OF IT ISN'T MANIFESTED YET. But, it is being manifested. ALL of His FINISHED WORK is being manifested. You see, what you look for is what you will see. If you look at yourself and see all these faults, and then you look at one that tries to tell you of the Truth of Who we are, make excuses, simply to cover the faults that they find in themselves. By telling you, IF you ARE HIM, prove it, this way or that way. This is futile. They see faults in themselves, and no one likes to be alone, so what do they see in you? Exactly what they are looking for; FAULTS! They and us, HAVE to change OUR VISION.

Some are seeing as HE SEES. Regardless of what the natural eyes tell them, they see a Truth, NOT the illusional seeing and thinking. I remember how Floyd use to talk about illusion. He knew that we could not believe what we see, or what we think, unless we use the Mind of Christ and the same seeing EYE that Father uses. Bless Him.

OK. Now let's put to rest the thought that we end, when the flesh body ends.

John 3:15, "That whosever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life."

Acts 13: 48, "And when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad and glorified the word of the Lord : and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed."

Rom. 6:23, "For the wages of sin is death: but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."

We have eternal life. It is just that some have to learn this on the other side. But, all will learn.

I hope that we have put to rest some of the things regarding death. All that takes place, is simply the stepping OUT OF THE FLESH BODY and enter another part of the journey, BACK to Who we really are.

John 1:16, " Of his fullness have we all received."

We are told to renew our mind.

Rom. 12:2, "And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God."

Eph. 4:23, "And be renewed in the spirit of of your mind."

The renewing, or the changing of the mind is a process. We all know that when we meditate on a thing, it becomes a part of us. Meditation is not just thinking a thing for a moment or two. Meditating is taking a thing, a truth and eating it, digesting it, CONTINUOUSLY. And it becomes not just a belief, but an actual part of us. A LIVING PART OF US.

So, when we step out of this flesh body, we "awaken" in that Spirit realm with the same mind that we had when we stepped out of the flesh. IF renewing the mind is a process, here on earth, it is a process even in the Spirit realm. We don't just wake up with a new mind. And God doesn't just wipe our mind clean, when we "die". IF He did, then what He would be saying is, "ok everyone, if you want your mind renewed, just die". HE IS ABOUT LIFE, NOT DEATH. We have seen the ONLY death that we are to see. The renewing of the mind, is so we can awaken to the fact that death has no hold on us. And I will say, this is a hard one to convince yourself of. From the time we were manifested in the flesh, all we have been taught that at a certain time, a certain age, we all have to die. And that is a lie that we have been walking in agreement with. Did He say that he BROKE OUR APPOINTMENT WITH DEATH? Well, WE have to break OUR COVENANT WITH DEATH. And that is done by changing our thinking, or renewing our mind.

The mind that we leave this earth with, is the same mind that we find within us on the other side. Why else would we be told:

Rev 10:1-3, "And I saw another mighty angle come down from heaven, clothed with a cloud; and a rainbow was upon his head, and his face was as it were the sun, and his feet as pillars of fire: And he had in his hand a little book open: and he set HIS RIGHT FOOT UPON THE SEA, AND HIS LFT FOOT ON THE EARTH, and CRIED WITH A LOUD VOICE, as when a lion roareth: and WHEN HE HAD CRIED, SEVEN THUNDERS UTTERED THEIR VOICES".

Dan 12:5-10, "Then I Daniel looked, and, behold, there stood other two, the one on this side of the bank of the river, and the other on that side of the bank of the river. And one said to the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, How long shall it be to the end of these wonders? And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished. And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things? and he said, Go thy way Daniel; for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end. Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly; and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand."

Here we see, One standing with one foot (a walk) on the Jordon and one foot on the earth. He is crying out with a loud voice; and He lifts his hands unto heaven and swares by Him that lives forever. Who is He proclaiming to? To those on the earth AND TO THOSE IN THE SPIRIT REALM. Both are still learning. The mind is still being renewed. God is no respector of persons. He does not do for those in the invisible realm, anything that He hasn't done for us here on earth. Just as we have to accept His Truth, so do those in the invisible realm.

When a person awakens in the invisible realm, they have the same beliefs, the same thoughts that they had when they stepped out of the body. One difference is I don't think that they can try to be something that they are not, just because they are in the spirit realm. One thing that does change is that they don't have the body to deal with. If they passed over, while in Pentecost here on earth, they awaken in that same belief system. If they were mean and nasty, it will be worked out of them, the same way it is with us. If they pass over thinking that they know it all, they will quickly find out that they don't, or they wouldn't be there to start with. If they knew it all, death could not have touched them. There is a time in God's plan for all things and no man can change His plan, not one iodta. We were given a parable to show us the truth of the condition we enter into that invisible realm, if we see death.

Luke 16: 20- , "There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day: And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores, and desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores. And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried; And IN HELL he lift up his eyes, being torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame. But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted and you art tormented. And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence. Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house; For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment. Abraham siath unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them. And he said, Nay, father Abraham; but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent. And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."

Now I want to begin talking to you about something that Father has been causing me to talk interest in, OUT OF BODY EXPERIENCES!! OK, you preachers who like to read my articles and then tell me how wrong I am, this is where you should click DELETE!!

Let us remember WHAT we are, SPIRIT BEINGS. The world thinks it is unnatural to experience experiences out of the flesh body. For once, they are right! It is unNATURAL. AS ARE WE. (at least natural, as we understand it) But, the things of the natural are not for the Spirit to exist in, with no relationship to the realm of their true being. (the Spirit realm or the realm of the invisible.) The Spirit is EVERYWHERE! How can we be ONE with each other, and with God, and NOT be where they all are? It is the time, in God's plan, that not only do we awaken to WHAT we are, but to start BEING AND DOING what we are meant to be and do.

Haven't you ever felt a strong urge to contact someone, who may be overseas; or across the United States, just out of nowhere, the urge came. So, you pick up the phone and call that person, and low and behold, that person tells you, "Boy, you are right on time, with this call". And you begin ministering to that person. (ministering isn't always preaching). And when you say, what you don't know WHY you said what you just said, that person says, "THIS IS GOD. THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I NEEDED TO HEAR!" This is SPIRIT COMMUNICATION!! So, why shouldn't we be open to ministering to those out of the flesh body? Why shouldn't THEY be ministering to us? The Higher Self in those who have passed over, need to be awakened the same as we needed to be awakened.

I know, right now, what some are going to ask; "Who do we think we are that we are to awaken anyone?" Well, I don't know Who you think you are, but I KNOW WHO I AM. I KNOW WHOSE LIFE I AM LIVING, HERE ON EARTH!! AS HE IS, SO AM I IN THIS WORLD, AND EVERYWHERE ELSE!! I HAVE EVERYTHING HE HAS. I AM HIS FULLNESS. WHEN HE LOOKS INOT THE MIRROR OF MY FACE HE SEES HIMSELF!! And IF you don't know these things, you should start seeking HIM, WITHIN YOU.

Ok, here on earth, we know that we go from realm to realm, in Him, and we grow daily to show HIM to be seen. Well what does scripture say?

1 Cor. 15:45-46, "And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit. Howbeit that was not the first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual. . The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven."

You see we were made A QUICKENING SPIRIT. However, the natural is first; then the spiritual. What is happening in the earthen realm, is happening in the spiritual realm, or the invisible realm. We learn and grow, here on earth. They learn and grow in the invisible realm. And what does it say that we are? QUICKENING spirits. We are to quicken others.

Quickening means: vitalize, give life, ferment (as if boiling up, to make or do, band together, bring forth, cause. cpmtomie. dea; wotjpit amu de;au. gain, give, lighten the ship, perform, provide , yield.

IF God is no respector of persons, who are we to be respector of persons? I don't see where it says, "teach everyone that IS IN A FLESH BODY. BUT NOT THOSE WHO HAVE LEFT THAT BODY." Folks, we really need to get out of all this religeous crap that we have been being held prisioner in . In fact, it's not even crap, crap is used as fertilizer, to bring forth life, what we have been and are being fed is having death fed to us.

In the next part, I want to look at some levels, in the invisible realm.

PART 3

2 Cor. 12:2, "I knew a man in Christ abov fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one caught up to the third heaven. And I knew such a man, (whether in the vody, or out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) How that he was caught up into paradise, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter."

We are going to look at the different levels, realms, or whatever you prefer to call them, in this part of our study. But first, I want us to look at the complexity of us, so we will understand the invisible realm.

I remember Floyd Watson telling me that our life is our garden; and in that garden are many PLACES, EXPERIENCES and truths. I believe this. MOST people see themselves as their flesh body; with Jesus living in us, the body. Of course, you who have known me for any length of time, know that I am not in this mid frame. To my way of thinking, this flesh body is simply a vehicle that is used to be seen, and a travel aid, just like our car is to us. I DO believe that there will be a people here on earth that will see the changing of the body, AS we awaken to out true Identity. A body that will and can functune just as the flesh man, Jesus', body functioned. That is, being able to walk through solid objects; that can be invisible when needed to be; and a body that death has NO DOMINION over. Right here on earth, not after we "die" and go to "heaven".

Many are awakening to the power that our mind holds. Our mind is everything. We have been using a mind that has covered over our true mind with earth, that is earthly thinking. Some call it carnal thinking. I believe the mind that was covered over is The Mind of Christ. But, there is a people who are "renewing" this mind of natural thinking, and bringing forth the True Mind. Things are being seen in a different Light. The natural sight, the natural learning and thinking, is being pushed aside and Truth is coming forth AND BEING SEEN. Simply because this people have awakened to their True Identity and are seeing with the Eye of Who they are One in, God.

Now, we are told in that first scripture, that there is a natural and there is a spiritual. The natural is first, because we have lost our memory of Being Spirit and seeing through the Spiritual, instead, we have only known the natural, since our manifesting into this flesh body. And since the natural is first, we have been seing in the natural. Now, the second is coming into play.

I know that we are EVERYTHING that we were when we came forth out from within God. Nothing has changed, except our thinking about Ourself. We are COMPLETE IN FATHER. But the natural thinking tells us differently. So this is what I want to look at right now, what we THINK we are and how we will/are receiving back our memory; BUT the manifestation or this remembrance is a process that is being brought forth in and through us. There are those who are claiming to be complete right now; and will not even accept the fact that this takes a processing. And THAT IS OK. Because we DO have to THINK IT TO BE IT. So, let's look at what this natural is made up of, which is MUCH more than we realize. And the WONDERFUL thing about this process, is that there comes a day when we don't even know that the process is over and all that we have seen Ourselves as, becomes, although it is already, the Truth of Us/Him.

As Human Minds, we are what we think. We also are what others think we are. Most of this has little to do with our physical bodies when we go below the surface. To deal with this, let's create a model of the human mind as it is and as it operates in practice. Imagine it as structured in layers, like an onion and let's work from the inside to the outside. Now, this is the natural mind.

The inner core is made up of:

1. what we have lived and consciously thought

2. the emotions that we have experienced

3. the love we have expressed and experienced

4. the dreams that we have experienced, whether we remember them or not

5. the pains and the pleasures

6. the daydreams, wishes and the hopes

This core is the layer that is most difficult to control. All of the expressions of the human mind are routed through this core. All the data that we receive in this time-space core. This is where the filtering, discoloration and contamination takes place. And we THINK that we need to rely on it or we cannot remain in and as the physical human.

The next layer, the conscious mind, this is where we THINK that we are something that is entirely different from KNOWING what and who we are. There is much distortion expressed as expression passed through this layer. Although much of this layer is deliberately hidden from others, a considerable part is expressed in our outer self. This layer is so complicated by belief systems; for many the complexity becomes a maze. It is no surprise that most don't find a clear way out.

The next layer is what we think that others think of us. This great a mixture because part of it is intuitive, non verbal communication, which gets confused with what our sensory and analytical perceptions tell us. This layer is in a constant state of change, changing constantly with new experience and new perceptions. This layer is controlled heavily by cultural context, we develop artifical and synthetic drives and motivations which probably lead to most mental and physical dysfunction. Attempting to keep up, or leading a totally reactive existence, which is what many people do, can if we allow this lifestyle to take over, lead to a veritable hell on earth.

The outer layer is much larger than we might think. Take all the people that you know, those here and those that have passed on, and think of what they think of you. Maybe, we would and maybe we wouldn't be surprised at how much more we are or less than we are. Take a minister. Everyone knows him/her and has placed him/her on a pedistal. They actually start to think that they are all the things that these people think they are. But, very little of what radiates from them, as preceived by others, is aware of the content of your inner core self. The disguise gets in the way. And a problem lies in the deep concern as to what others think of them.

Now, a lot of people may not want to agree with this, but it is the natural person. We have all and do, experience these things. Haven't watched someone that even the way they WALK changes when in the presence of those who have them on that pedistal. I know I have seen it. So, just as the natural mind is made up of all these different layers, so is the spiritual, or invisible realm made up of layers of awakening. We have to walk through each of these layers and as awakening happens in us. We do not just wake up one morning and the entire natural mind is changed. It is a process where every layer is dealt with, BY THE SPIRIT. Of course, we do have a part that we play in this renewing of the mind. We study, we read, we meditate, we begin bringing forth what is given by the Spirit and we APPLY what the Spirit raises in us. WE HAVE IT ALL, we just have to bring it forth.

In every layer of the natural mind, there is a layer of the Spiritual mind. As we take what the Spirit raises in us, we replace each layer of the natural mind with the rising understanding within us, by the Spirit. And the sooner we get it in our head that Spiritual DOES NOT MEAN RELIGEOUS, the sooner the natural mind is truely renewed. IF we think that Spiritual thinking is religeous thinking, all we are doing is covering the natural mind with more covering, incorrect covering.

Now, I want to look at some levels of the invisible realm.

As I said, we "awaken" in the invisible realm with the same thoughts we left this realm with. It is very religeous to think that once we step out of the flesh body, that automatically we get a brand new mind. It doesn't work like that.

At the end of this study, I will give references to where some of this material came from. But, let's not break our train of thought.

We know that there is a "place" or condition that we will manifest that is exactly in His Image. The truth manifests and the old natural thinking has no place, any longer. And as I said, WE DO ALREADY HAVE IT, we just have to rid ourselves of all, in the mind, that is not His persona. This will/is happening in both realms, the earthen realm and the invisible realm.

Part 5

As I said in the last part of this study, I want to share some of what Mr Monroe said about meeting people, that he had known and had passed over. One example will be when Mrs Monroe passed over and the feelings that Mr Monroe experienced.

But first, I want to share what I was talking about when I said that while Out of the Body, Mr Monroe met "guides".

These will just be parts of what was told. And I will be skipping to different meetings.

QUOTE: "The suspicion began where I thought I had a good perspective of the human experience. In retrospect, the whole thing may have been planned that way, all along. I had been moving in and out of OBE very blithelly and calmly, always sure that my guiding totoal self KNEW the answers, would take care of anything and any problem as they arose. It had worked perfectly to date, and perhaps that was why the slight scent of suspicion began to form. However great my ego might think I was, I knew I wasn't that good.

Thus entered again one of my many questionable characteristics. I can't let a good thing alone and simply let it happen; I had to find out why. In several succeeding OBE, I tried to becme aware of WHO was doing the "driving" or "navigating". The contact was elusive in the beginning, no percept other than a gentle presence behind me, directing where I went. I turned around, but there was nothing----at the most a trace of a friendly presence. But it was there and it seeme definitely external.

I, later, went back through my notes, all the way to the beginning of my OBE. I was astounded that I had ignored what was so apparent. For instance; a hand helping me get out of the flesh body, a hand on my arm, a response to my anguished screams, and the more subtle clues apparent from my new perspective. I had called the "helpers" at the time and let it go at that. At the minimum, I had not turned my activities over to my "greater self", but to them, whoever "they" were.

Thereafter, during active OBE, I tried many times to communicate with these presences, singular or plural, to no avail. CORRECTION: I THOUGHT I received no reply because no words were forthcoming, only pictures, sensations, and action. The change came about when I dimly began to realize I wasn't speaking their "language", as it were. Words and language, as we know them, are strictlly human. The inference was obvious to me---being human. My deflated ego rose somewhat with the realization that whatever my communication methos was, a responw WAS coming from these, ,,,"nonhumans".

With this awareness, I continued to ask and let "them" do the driving and navigating during my OBE states for one simple reason: the process had been working. Whoever they were, they certainly knew the territiory far better than I. Each time, though, I attempted another kind of communication, and it began to getting results. I directed wordless thoughts, pictures, activities, feelings, and emotions to the supposed presence behind me. Each time, there was an immediate response of like quality. It took some analytical and subfective attitudes combined, to comprehend what I received. It was painfully slow on my side, astoundingly patient on theirs. Out of it came the rudiments of what we now call nonverbal communication. It was a milestone in my consciousness. "

Just as some of us might remember, the first time we heard from the Spirit Being, that we are, was quite surprising, astounding and not completely understood at the time of the Spirit's revealing. Why have we thought that the invisible realm be any different? We, some of us, have lived with a many changing belief of what the invisible realmw would be like. And we are STILL HAVING THE TRUTH OF IT BROUGHT BACK TO OUR REMEMBRANCE! There will still be much to learn, when one passes over to that invisible realm. We may have the revealation, given to us of Who and What we are, but until it is manifested fully, we will go right on learning, either here on earth, or in the invisible realm. The Books of Daniel and Revelation show us this.

I have received a couple of "disagreeing" responses, since I started this study; but, on the whole many more encouraging responses. People who are open WANT to remember that Spirit realm. After all, why shouldn't we want to know or remember more about the very realm that we came out of!!??

As for being able to read the thoughts of others; didn't Jesus do that very thing?

John 1:43-51, "The day following Jesus would go forth into Galilee, and findeth Philip, and saith unto him, Follow me. Now Philip was of Bethsaida, the city of Andrew and Peter. Philip findeth Nathanael, and saith unto him, We have found him, of whom Moses, in the law, and the prophets, did write, Jesus of Nazareth, the son of Joseph.. And Nathanael said unto him, Can there any good thing come out of Nazareth? Philip saith unto him, Come and see. Jesus saw Nathanael coming to him, and saith of him, Behold an Israelite indeed, in whom is no guile! Nathanael saith unto him, Whence knowest thou me? Jesus answered and said unto him, Before that Philip called thee, when thou wast under the fig tree, I saw thee. Nathanael answered and saith unto him, Rabbi, thou are the Son of God; thou are the King of Israel. Jesus answered and said unto him, Because I said unto thee, I saw thee under the gig tree, believest thou? thou shalt see greater things than these. And he saith unto him , Verily, verily, I say unto you, Hereafter ye shall see heaven open, and the angels of God ascending and descending upon the Son of man."

Mt 9:4 "And Jesus knowing their thoughts said, Wherefore think ye evil in your hearts?"

Lu 11:17 " But he, knowing their thoughts, said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and a house divided against a house falleth."

Look throughout the bible and find the different places where Jesus read the thoughts of people. We have listened to our church leaders teach us that such a thing as that is "witchcraft", etc. And yet they stand and say, "God is all in all". Were we not told in John 1:16 that we HAVE RECEIVED the FULLNESS of Him? So why is it so surprising that such can and should be happening, especially with those who are concessing that they KNOW their TRUE IDENTITY? Of the ego? I don't think so. Of the carnal mind? I don't think so. Flesh and blood cannot enter heaven. We have walked through this journey of remembering from whence we came, learning day by day, minute by minute. Why would it be any different in the invisible realm? I think it is rather childish to thinkg that IF we die, we get REWARDED FOR DIEING, by all of a sudden have that Fullness restored, in memory, to us. But, I guess each person will have to believe what they will believe. But, for sure, they will find out.

Haven't we had "guides", sent by Father to help us along our way, here on earth? If you don't think so, why are you still teaching? Still holding meetings? Still even communicating with others? Why not just stow away from everyone and let it come to you? The bible tells us, that NO PART OF THE BODY OF CHRIST can say to another, "I have no need of you".

I KNOW that there are levels, or realms, or as Mr Monroe chooses to call them, focuses, that we will travel through to reach the FULLNESS of it all MANIFESTED, in this realm and the invisible realm.

Now, I want you to see how Mr Monroe experienced different levels.

QUOTE: "I never asked the "guides" exactly what their role was in human earth pattern. I assumed they were simply a graduate school version the ex-human helpers from the outer rings. Their mode of operation and purpose seemed very similar, except that the "guides" had knowledge and technology far beyond that drawn from the human experience. The fact that they seemed to be independent of the recycling rings supported this belief. To pose questions about motives seemed---irreverent. Or perhaps I didn't want to endanger the good thing I had going for me. "

Here are some of the conversations, between Mr Monroe and his "guides":

QUOTE: " GUIDE: You encountered a condition similar to that which your scientists call a standing wave, where tow like energies in phase appear to cancel on another to zero. Yet there is no zero, as energy does not cancel, it transforms into other dynamic states."

QUOTE: "Mr Monroe: So now I supposedly knew what happened. But that didn't explain where I was. If I asked....."

Guide: "Where" is a relative term. The most reasonable explanation from your perspective is that you are just outside the portal, the gate to our reality, a conversion point."

Mr Monroe: Well !! There are gates to heaven, after all. I guess they could be construed as golden and/or pearly, if you thought heaven was beyond."

GUIDE: "You are correct in your assumption. IT IS ALL FROM WITHIN THE OBSERVER. You will become aware of such reality at an appropriate point."

Now, when Mr Monroe met or saw his wife, after she had passed on. (He was still alive in the physical body, but in an OBE. We must remember that he had shared all of his research in OBE, with his wife, Nancy. This is when she is passing over, in the hospital:

QUOTE: "It was the end of hospital visiting hours. In Nancy's room, I bent over her and kissed her forehead.

"Are you sleepy?", he asked.

"Mmmmmm."

"You look better tonight."

"Mmmm. I'm fine."

"Want to go play later?"

"In, in Focus 27"

"Yes, for starters", He said.

"Yes", she said.

"I'll see you later".

"I love you."

"I love you too."

At around eight in the evening, we received an urgent call from the hospital, and were at her bedside by nine. Her arms and hands were limp and cold, and she was breathing in short, deep gasps followed by a long pause. But it was looking into her unblinking eyes that tome me. Nancy was no longer there.

Later, the Lifeline team (of the invisible realm) reported that they had taken her to Focus 27 sometime between seven-thirty and eight, and that she was safe and warmly greeted there. This was approximately the time the hospital noted the beginning of her terminal breathing (the medical people call it Che^ne-Stokes).

Two nights after her departure, I thought I had calmed down enough to attempt to visit her. Which I did. The result was an emotional explosion that included every nuance existing between tow humans deeply in love, all up-front and simultaneous, without the limitations of time and physical matter. It was a great effort to return, and it took days to recover.

A second attempt, a week later, brought the same results. It was simply too much to handle. Until I learned more, I had to put up a shield that restricts any kind of nonphysical activity on my part. I now have a new challenge, a massive adjustment to make. One that I hadn't considered. A very new direction. Can I live in two worlds at the same time? With Nancy in 27 and me here? I don't know. " UNQUOTE

When Mr Monroe first started his research, he was not a God person. But somewhere in his journeys, he did find God. HE came to the edge of what he thinks is the fullfillment of God, you will have to read it for yourself. I wholeheartedly suggest you read his books and let your Inner Being led you as to what you see as Truth. I found this wonderfully enlightening and found many conformations to my thinking, before I read these books. I will be experimenting with the OBE in the months to come and will keep you updated. Be blessed.

Mr Monroe's Books:

1) Out of the Body

2) Far Journey

3) Ultimate Journey