OUR JOURNEY
part 4
Sin, What is it, or is it at all?
Before we start on "sin", I'd like to give my opinion of the mind. We have been
taught that our mind is sinful and evil. We've also, been taught that we are
going to receive a new mind; a pure mind and a perfect mind.I took this question
to Father one day; "Father, if we have the Mind of Christ, as the bible tells us
that we do, then how can we also have a sinful, carnal mind?"
The answer that I received was pretty simple, at least to me. He said, "You
DO have the Mind of Christ. That mind was in you from the beginning.It has just
been covered up with the muck and flesh thinking that you gained when you
manifested into the earthen realm.You were deceived into believing that you have
two minds.It is a lie. But, that's what you have focused on, and so it became
true, to you."
It is my belief that the mind that we have used, here, in this earthen realm, is
the same mind that was in us as we came forth, out of God. But, just as the
forming of "man" from the "dust of the earth", that same dust covered that
wonderful Mind, because of the journey that we were to/are traveling, now.
If you take a light bulb and place it in a clear plastic container, and start
pouring dirt on and around the bulb; and watch from beneath a glass table top;
you will see that all around that container, darkness takes place; BUT, from
beneath the table, you can see that the light keeps right on burning. Even
though we can't see it from the top view or the side view, you can look under
that container and see it is still burning.
Think of us, as the container. Carnal thinking being the dirt. God's anointing
is the Light. Anointing is God's Life. That Light NEVER goes out. God's Light
comes forth FROM DARKNESS. Darkness doesn't come forth from Light. Now, start
removing the dirt from the container; what do you see? The light begins being
seen. It is the same with the mind.
We have never been told that we are going to get a new mind, or a new soul. We
are told to RE-NEW our mind. That re-newing brings forth transformation. (Eph
4:23, Rom 12:2) It's like cleaning a house. The furniture may be old and worn,
but, when you polish and deep clean the furniture, it looks like a different
place. You women know what this is like.
The re-newing is simply changing our focus, by following the leading of the Holy
Spirit, WHICH WE ARE MADE OF!! We were brought forth from God; we were and ARE
Spirit Beings; what Spirit did we come forth as? HIS SPIRIT. What was His
Spirit, HOLY!!!! The more the mind is fed the Truths of God, the more dirt is
removed and the brighter the Light becomes IN US AND AS US.
I like what Rokus said: "We are the embodiment of Light, the Eternal
Presence, from whom came all things and in whom all exists. Truth is the essence
of us, flowing from us, bringing Light and deliverance to the created realms."
SEPARATION
We need to look at the separation that we have been experiencing, AND Father has
been experiencing also. We ARE Him, One with Him, One cannot experience
something that the Other doesn't experience at the same time. Think about it.
When your physical head goes somewhere, doesn't your body also go? They are ONE.
As it is with Father. We are His literal Body, right here on earth. We are SO
ONE, there is no sight of TWO. It is not Him and us. It is ONLY HIM. And we
will, all come into this knowing.
Now, speaking of separation, I am not speaking what some teach, that when we
"fell" , that we became separated from God. That is a lie and deception, that
has been used as an excuse for all that we felt,we were doing "wrong". As we
will see, as we look at the separation, the separation has been OF THE MIND Of
Father and the falling into the believing what the carnal mind has told us.
Now, to begin with, let's look at Who brought about this separation.
Gen. 1:26, "And GOD said, Let US make man in OUR image, after OUR likeness;...."
The word for "God", is Elohim. The word for US, is "plural of majesty", This
means PLURAL of Elohim. This is one place that identifies Who we have always
been. We were Elohim IN HIM and we are STILL Elohim. He cannot change, neither
can we. He was the Creator: the Plural Elohim helped God MAKE the image of the
man created., (as we shall see)
The "US" and the word "OUR", although it is in the plural form, is for our
understanding that there was NOT JUST GOD. We must remember, this is written in
MAN'S language, English. God speaks SPIRIT. So, ALL of the bible , is written
in HUMAN LANGUAGE. Why? Because we have believed that we are HUMAN. While in
fact, we ARE the exact same thing that we were when we came out of God, SPIRIT.
We have just forgotten our origin.
So, you can read the "US" and the "OUR", as Elohim. God. That's what we were and
are. But, let's go on. Although, it appears to be more than one person, it is
indeed ONE PERSON. We are ONE with the Father, just as Jesus was. Nothing about
this truth has changed, EXCEPT our thinking. What is real, seems so impossible
to us; and what is a disception, is so easy to believe, because we have been
living the disception. But, all that is changing, we are RE-GAINING OUR MEMORY
of Who we ARE.
So, God was ONE GOD, and yet plural. Like the many member Body spoke of in the
New Testament.
This "man" that was brought forth, out from within God was not just ONE man, it
was MANKIND. EVERY person spoken of , in the bible, is a many membered person;
antichrist=a many membered body; the church=a many membered body; the Son of
God=a many membered body. Ok? So, this man was all of mankind, that HAS
manifested in this earthen realm, and every one that WILL manifest in this
realm. We were and are in Father. Even those not yet born, are in Father.
I wasn't going to go into all this, but, I really feel led to, so I am.
Now, this man who came forth out from within God, was in the image of God, and
the likeness of God. ALL MANKIND were and ARE in His Image and Likeness. We were
and are The Word that God spoke, to bring us forth from Himself. We think that
only Jesus is the Word. But, folks, Father sees no difference in any of His
Sons; and that includes Jesus. He is no respecter of persons. We are told that
Adam was the Son of God, in the genealogy, in Luke 3:38. He loves all of His
Sons, the same.
Now, out of this man, GOD caused a deep sleep to come upon him. (Gen 2:21) Let
me ask you a question, here. Have you ever read in the bible, where the man
ever woke up? Think about this. Anyway, while in this deep sleep (which means,
"darkness", in the Hebrew language, the woman was brought forth. Notice, it was
AFTER the sleep, that the woman came forth. The woman means nothing more than
the SOUL. This soul was brought forth from the "formed" man, not the one who
came forth out of God. (Gen 2:22). Remember, it is the soul where man is
tempted. SPIRIT=MALE, SOUL=FEMALE, and the body is neutral, following which ever
is the stronger.
This is where many disagree. Some think that the formed man did not have the
power of God within him, but, God told this formed man to give names to the
animals. This does not mean, what each animal would be called; it meant that the
man gave NATURES to the animals. I don't want to go into all of this, but,notice
when the women of the Old Testament gave birth to a child, the name that was
given to that child, prophesied the NATURE that the child would carry with them.
You can search this out.
It is my opinion that all mankind was given this power and still has it. We are
told:
John 1:16, "And of his fullness HAVE (past tense) all we received (past tense)
, and grace for grace."
Col.2:10, "And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and
power..."
Col.4:12, "Epaphras, who is one of you, a servant of Christ, saluteth you,
always labouring fervently for you in prayers, that ye may stand perfect and
complete in all the will of God"
We can only stand in what we KNOW and BELIEVE. I think that Paul was saying,
that they were praying for us to KNOW Who we are and to STAND in ALL that we
are, in God, which is GOD.
We are epistles that the world reads. Epistles not written with hands of man,
but, the image and likeness of God. Where will His Truths come from, to be given
to the men, women and children to come; AND the church system that is in full
force right now? It comes from within these bodies that we have believed, is
our life; but, it is the dwelling place of God. His Truths are coming from us,
the Elohim. "As HE IS SO ARE WE, in this present arrangement". But, the
arrangement is changing, God is manifesting in the earth.
Notice, that He is called "God". When we came forth out of Him, we became known
as "the Lord God". He is The Lord of Lords, we are the Lords, that He is Lord
of. He was Spirit and we were Spirit. He cannot change, and never can the real
us that is now living in this coat of flesh. Under it all, we are Who we have
always been.
God did all the creating from Gen 1:1 through Gen 2:3. At Gen 2:3, God RESTED.
Now, the PLURAL Elohim (the man in the image of God, who was the son of God,
from the beginning) began creating. I am not going into all of this, (you can
study out the words "God" and "Elohim) but I want us to see how God, the Father
did not create sin or evil. Keep in mind that GOD RESTED FROM HIS WORK.
From here on out, it was the Lord God who did the rest of creating. And remember
God and the Lord God were ONE.
The Garden just represents a concousness of God. The mind of man was still in
the consciousness of God. AGAIN, there was no evil in God, the Creator. ALL
THAT HE CREATED WAS IN HIS IMAGE AND LIKENESS, ALL that He created came forth
FROM WITHIN HIM. So, who was it that created evil?
In Gen 2 6-7, we see that the Lord God brought the man (the Plural God) to the
Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil. IT WAS NOT GOD WHO TEMPTED MAN, remember,
God had rested from the work. But, before God rested, He made a Plan. A plan
that would include HE , HIMSELF experiencing ALL that the man was to experience.
As time passed, it was that part of the man that was tempted, his soul. The man,
when he ate of the KNOWLEDGE of GOOD AND EVIL, has been creating ever since.
That power of God was and IS still within him, US. From here on out, it was the
man, (the Plural God) who created all that was to be created. (evil, darkness,
good and bad, right and wrong, the dual thinking). When the man ate of the fruit
of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil, the man's mind fell into carnality.
BUT, remember, HE WAS NOT CHANGED, just HIS THINKING WAS CHANGED. There is much
more that could be said about all this, but you have the general idea, and can
study it out more thoroughly.
So, the separation of thinking, began at the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil.
It was God's Plan, but He allowed the man to bring forth evil, to learn
and see the total opposite of all that God is, from the lies, and deceptions
that the woman has been feeding us.
Not only that, where it says that
"Jesus was tempted as man is tempted",
God EXPERIENCED the evil, and the feeling of man after being tempted. It wasn't
God tempting man, it was man's many lusts that tempted him. It is and was man,
getting RELIGIOUS thinking, and trying to live in the expectations of others,
that said, "you are a sinner". God has never said that. Even in the Garden, when
Adam and Eve ate the fruit and God went to find them, Adam said, "we were naked
and ashamed". GOD SAID,
"WHO TOLD YOU THAT YOU WERE NAKED?"
God doesn't condemn. He can't and has NEVER BEEN ABLE TO!! If He did, He would
have to admit that the Atonement that HE set in place, before the foundation of
the world, didn't work! Think about it, folks. We have got to lose these
religious things that have been put into our minds. He sees us now, and always
has, as the way He brought us forth from within Him. He sat the Atonement in
place, and it manifested in the earthen realm, 2000 years ago. For the FLESH
THINKING MIND TO SEE. It was THEN that our remembrance began returning to us.
I won't go on, any further with this. It is enough for you to start studying it
out, if you want. But, a truth is, GOD DID NOT CREATE EVIL. It was "the Lord
God", those in His Image, but had lost the memory and the thinking of the God
mind. We STILL have the power to create; and we are still creating. How? With
our thoughts and words.
"Life and death are in the power of the tongue".
Now, either we believe His Word or we don't. It's that simple. We may not
understand it all yet, but we MUST BELIEVE HIM. We can't pick and choose certain
things to believe, either His Word is Truth, or it's not. He tells us that He
disannuled the covenant with death that WE made, and yet what is still spoken
EVERY DAY? DEATH. We really need to wake up, from that deep sleep.
One sister wrote:
"In Genesis, as I was thinking about everything that got DIVIDED --it was
still One in spirit form. The water and the land, the light and the dark, the
male and the female, the day and the night---the divisions took place outwardly,
but kept their essence inwardly. When we "see" outwardly (without a heaven) we
are seeing with division and separate thinking, which creates an illusion or
veil~~~ when we break through or overcome the outward to see the inward----we
see a Heaven. Higher and higher heavens~~~ above the illusions and veils to pure
essence---or back to spirit where form is seen clearly for what it is---another
form of the same reality---pure love, unveiling itself as love in another
form...."ears have not heard and eyes have not seen nor has entered the mind of
man...." pure love, seen and heard and changing the mind of man into another
reality."
You see, what we BELIEVE is what becomes, REALITY, to us. We began believing we
were sinners. We began believing that we were unpure. We began believing THAT WE
ARE MORTAL HUMAN BEINGS. What was produced? All things that touch the human body
and mind. And it is the human mind that created evil. You see, for God to create
anything, that thing comes forth from Him. Evil was not in Him. But, as man's
mind fell, evil was created. Many times, evil came forth from man's mind, his
religious mind, to control. Look at how the religious system has used religious
control to keep people and their money right where they want it, in the pockets
of the system. But, that too, was a part of God's plan. But, to even think that
evil could come from a pure mind of love, goes against all that God is. Love
cannot hurt; evil hurts all. Man's mind, or what we've come to believe is OUR
mind, can and still does create evil.
It is important to know that God will not give his power to overcome any other
power in this world. The reason being that there is only ONE POWER in this
universe so there is nothing to overcome. We are told that "to God, darkness and
Light are the same", and "He rains on the just as well as the unjust". God
doesn't see anyone as just or unjust, good or evil. He sees us as HE brought us
forth as. God simply sees everything as a tool to bring back to our remembrance,
Who we are. We will be looking at the purpose of this separation of thinking, a
little later. Let me say again; THE ATONEMENT WAS IN PLACE WHEN THE MIND FELL.
So, in the Spirit realm, all IS FINISHED. It is just being manifested in this
natural world. But, we must know these things. This separation of the thinking
as God thinks and as man thinks is a wonderful thing, when we understand it and
it's purpose.
Here we begin to understand, there is nothing but Spirit! Our whole world is
a spiritual world where supply, income and abundance are Spirit. Truth can not
change or be changed; this Truth means your Body, your mind and your world ARE
PERFECT, IMMACULATE, FREE AND FLAWLESS RIGHT NOW, even as this moment.
And all that we have been though and believed was for the purpose of the
manifesting of the REAL, FATHER. And we are beginning to see and understand
this. He is SO VERY WISE.
One sister said, "~~ I just finished an email to a friend about seeing myself
as the Statue of Liberty and the book in her hand is in mine too---mine is
titled, Unchained and Changed. It is about unchaining our divinity and that
changes our humanity. One realm of reality changes the other. Our being is
changed in the twinkling of this "I".
Another sister said, "And I will give to you the keys of the kingdom of
heaven: and whatsoever you shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and
whatsoever you shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven. Matt 16:19 "
Are you seeing this verse in terms of manifestation? "
SIN
In this discussion group, we have been discussing sin. There was various
opinion on and about sin. I'm sure everyone has their own ideas about sin. But,
before we begin looking at this subject, let's remember one thing. What we focus
on, is what we see and believe. We KNOW ALL THINGS; we just have to allow it to
come forth.
And let me say, by the word, "allow", let me say this; we must remain open to
the leading of the Spirit and spend time listening. IF we don't, we don't
receive, from within. I used the word "allow" in our discussions, regarding
Father "allowing", and it was not received that well. And I understand where the
disagreement of its use comes from. But, again, that's what the Spirit does; it
interprets for us, according to where we believe that we are in Him.
And also, before we begin, let us remember: SIN IS NO MORE. JESUS TOOK IT TO
THE CROSS WITH US RIGHT THERE WITH HIM. As we go along, you will see that
there is a belief, by some, that some sort of deep embedded sin, still remains
and will not be done away with until the full manifestation of Father.
I DO NOT hold to this thinking. (at least, right now. I AM learning a lot though
through this group, so we'll see what is to come) Sin is sin. Regardless of any
of our definitions of sin. The Word did not tell us that Jesus took all sin
(deeds), but left some. So, as we go along, we'll see what the thinking of this
is all about. So, let's stay open. We will also, be getting into the purpose of
sin and separation, later in this writing.
What is sin?
I think that we all have different opinions and beliefs on the question of "what
is sin?". I'd like to share some of the thoughts and beliefs that were
expressed in the discussion of this.
"Sin is the thought or awareness that I cannot meet your expectation". This
was an idea of one brother and the following was a reply to this thought."
"AH,.... that definition of sin fits so many angles of us in this earth
experience~~ I love it. It especially makes me think of the UNBELIEF that kept
the mind of the wilderness experience STUCK where it was without all the
promises of the land of their life. We do two things that add to our pain~~~ we
set up the expectation and then we don't even believe it's possible to have them
met by our God. ~~~ perfect definition of pain! And what a wonderful way to
experience the way out of the pain~~~~ RELATIONSHIP---LOVE--our true nature! "
The difference in US and those who went through the wilderness experience is
that, WE have the Holy Spirit to lead, answer and bring to our remembrance, what
those, in that day, did not have. Their experience was for us to look back on
and learn from. I agree with all that everyone says about LOVE. Love IS THE WAY,
AND IS WHO WE ARE; but, the process of Father manifesting through us, brings
forth in us, that love. IF we loved as He loves, we would not be asking for His
Wisdom. Yes, let me say again, WE ARE AND WE HAVE ALL THAT HE IS, but, the dirt
is being removed so that He can CLEARLY be seen IN THIS REALM, through us, or
the real us, as Him. The focus could not slip from one realm to another, if the
manifestation was fully in place. It is MANIFESTING NOW, and some see it more
clearly than others, but some haven't even seen the LIGHT yet. Even though they
have been, (and probably the biggest reason,) in the RELIGIOUS system for so
long.
We ARE the LOVE, but we have to REALIZE ALL THAT WE ARE, for it to manifest. The
realizing is coming, in different ways in each of us; in the level or realm of
belief that we are in. ALL IS FINISHED IN THE SPIRIT OF WHO WE ARE, but, all did
not allow many truths to come to them, in this physical realm, for different
reasons. But those truths WILL come to them, it is God's Plan. And, even those
who have passed on to the invisible realm ARE STILL RECEIVING REVELATION OF
TRUTHS. ALL WILL MANIFEST and IS MANIFESTING. Those must come into all of
Father's Truths to be called back into a glorified body. So, the learning, or
remembering of Who we are, goes on, even in that realm.
One person said, " maybe the reason you love being controlled by God is because
God is the essence of your true being. Our Spirit Being is very comfortable
following its own directions. We just get in trouble when we think with the
ego/soul mind, without the direction of the Spirit, tries to control our lives."
Some think that we are controlled by God. If that is so, then we are doing the
controlling because we are told, "as he is, so are we in this world,(present
arrangement). I think that what we are controlled by is the Who that we know,
within, that we are. It is indeed, the leading of the Christ Mind, within us,
that leads to each elevated step that we take, leading us back to that place of
knowing that we are ONE with God. I don't mean that God is just sitting "up
there in heaven" pulling the strings, manipulating His puppets. No. I think it
is what has been in us, since our coming forth, that is resurfacing above the
dirt that it was covered by when we manifested int his earthen realm. HIM! He IS
in control of all things; but, in that control, He ALLOWS us to make choices and
learn from them.
I think it is that the Plan that God laid, will be and IS being fulfilled. Some
will go their own way UNTIL they arrive at that place in His Plan. Some will
follow the leading of the Spirit and will not travel this journey, as long as
others do. (I don't mean, timewise).Some will and are fulfilling His
manifestation right here on earth and will and are swallowing up death. These
are just my thoughts. I'm sure each of you have your own thoughts on this.
I want to look at some definitions of sin. My own definition is UNBELIEF.
But, when Jesus and us died on the cross, the new heart which had Father's Words
written on it, did away with that unbelief and it is being drawn up, from within
us.
One brother said that , "a good definition of Sin is - Thoughts or energy
that we create and put into motion without any direction from God within."
Another said, " Please do not feel compelled from me to accept this definition
of SIN as THE truth, however , to explore its possibilities, can you let
go.....just or this discussion....of the old thoughts you have about sin.
SIN...that you are thinking of does not exist....so...the most we can say about
it is...well...its gone, thank you Jesus.
The SIN I am speaking of lies at a deeper level than any definition we have
considered....it cannot be put away until the fulfillment of all things...or as
long as consciousness is still unfolding...OK???"
To me, sin is sin; whether in the form or deeds, thoughts, words or focuses. And
focusing on any kind of sin, brings forth that thing. (As a man thinketh....)
Sin has been taken out of way, But, I do agree that we need to be prepared on
this subject, of sin, to be able to help others, who will be traveling this same
realm that we are traveling.
to be continued...